Alright, serious post time.
As I am stating here, I attended a karate school here in Lexington, KY, for the past ten years off and on. I got my brown sash/black belt about 4 years ago, and was really satisfied with my efforts. When I first began attendance, I was 20 years old, and it was really my intentions to study tai chi, and see if, with time, I could study under one of the teachers there. I didnt have enough money at the time for tuition, I didnt have income and was still living with my mom at the time. After about a year, I got my first belt/sash, and was a yellow sash. At this time there were around 20+ people attending the internal system classes they offered. Tuition was about 150 dollars a month and I really had to cut corners every month to make the payments on my low fixed income. I began having some really serious remarks from the long term "senior students", long term students and disciples of the Headmaster, Grandmaster Sin Thé. They made several remarks that I wasnt ready for the kind of commitment they said that I needed to make it, and began making statements to each other in front of me, and in private it is suggested, about me not being right in my head mentally to make progress, and that it just wasnt going to be enough for their personal expectations, in a very shallow insinuating way. In the class, from there to my green sash and current brown sash (which I recently ditched in an alleyway discreetly), I was hazed, over and over again, with refusal to teach me and present/open avoidance, on days that I was really heavily occupied, in discipline/prepared mentally and physically, at least several dozen classes over a 3-4 year period, from 2017-2021. I also during this time, had personal statements made against me by 2 or 3 other students, who left the classes after this of their own decision. About this time, Covid 19 began to hit and I only came back to visit, to see what the status of this was taking, preselectively and periodically. By then, and at the time of the first period of training, appx 2014-2016, many of their members became very distant (even more so) and left the company of their "private members only- club", attendance sharply falling to a severely minimal membership, and about this time, severe circumstances began to crop up. Dale Leonard, wife of the owner and head master, was killed in a devastating car wreck. There were also serious health complications/serious fatal illness with the head of the organization, Master Sin Thé. It also caused severe complications for their internal ranking/internal system of accountability, and much of their personal faith in their system was shaken eternally. Due to my financial situation and some personal conflicts I had with family stress, mental health concerns (I needed to take time to recover myself) and personal judgement I felt within my own immediate family, I had very much decided to take this as even-more-slowly-than--possible-as-possible. I had already received attacks of a psychic nature, in my sleep, spiritual attacks, against my own health, relationships (fights and conflict, family and social), as well as on my life in spiritual scenarios where I faced uncalled for rejection and backlash unrelated and unprovoked from other spiritual avenues/spiritual authorities, I had been seeking as a backup plan/alternatives that I went to, thinking I could seek them as a resource for help. Less than a year ago, the head of the school died of an aneurysm, and I went to the funeral. I shaved my head, and went in uniform, respectfully. Several of the members who were not long term personally students/disciples of the teachers there, also became very, in my eyes I say this, hostile, when I saw them there and I felt a deeper sense of dishonor there, residually from the earlier years. After Covid, and during when I attended small periods, inconsistently, due to the inner resentment, I actually myself received numerous personal comments of a threatening nature from students who felt, I would imagine, resentment from me not offering them personal respect they felt they deserved/were owed. I either walked out wordlessly, or just gave them a personal statement of personal affirmation to suit their own ego's. After a 6 month time period after the funeral, they changed the opening hours of the school from 4 pm to 5:30 pm, as an effort to curb interference of efforts to undermine their iron grip on membership and participation.
As of 1 week ago, I went to the class and was stopped at the door, at about 5 pm, by a senior member. He said, I was told, you were not to be allowed to go in there, under any circumstances. I said "why??!" And he said "I dont know. I was just Told, nothing else." And I said very worried, "WHY? I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG?" He said "I dont know, thats just what I was told." And I asked why and he said "we talked it over and there was mentioned something about some threats?" And I replied "that was over 5 years ago (a statement I made at the time, a warning and observation to the student who was forcing/pushing me, both in class and privately), and THEY WERE NOT THREATS!" He did not reply. I asked again, "What did Grandmaster Sin say about it?" He could not tell me a word because he did not know anything about it.
I resolved this later (they unplugged the phone so I could not call back), the next day, very open non-vindicating statements, and they did not provide any personal information, over Facebook, or details, and did not offer, in fact actually withheld, what this situation was specifically being caused by. No information provided. Just said to leave, and that they "looked forward to seeing me make progress."
I went back to talk to my tai chi teacher, (who I believe has done this to vindicate himself from the vast downfall that this behavior caused for their entire system/school, due to me making a private statement via email to another school, over the hazing which was prolonged, subtle, unrequited, and completely personally an attack on my mind, human potential, free will and my spirituality), today, privately and waited for 10 mins out by the back entrance to ask him -personally- what details were being instituted to know what officially needed to be done to clear myself of their charges, or what needed to be done on my part. HE WOULDNT EVEN GIVE ME A BASIC 5 MINUTE CONVERSATION TO LET ME KNOW, AFTER ALMOST 11 YEARS OF STUDY.
I am writing this to let anyone who reads this, know that this was perpetuated on me out of personal greed, pride, and shame, if not more personal spiritual problems, by a number of people involved with the Shaolin-Do karate "school system," under the Authority of 10th Deg. GRANDMASTER SIN KWANG THÉ. This was done in secrecy and doubledealing and deception, under unspoken lineage dissemination via the Shaolin lineage inherited by Said, Sin Kwang Thé.
I have no dishonor, negative emotions, disrespect, ill will, or, unintended Or intentional, resentment or neglect or etc etc Shameful Behavior in any way shape or form toward Gm. Sin Thé, this Highly Accomplished Master of Shaolin Martial Arts (and Meditation.)
I am writing this to act as a spiritual message toward the uninformed, that in the famous maxim of (esoteric) spirituality, both of these statements:
"Crime hides in the incense of prayer," and the proverbial gnostic maxim together with the former, "Many spiritual schools are full of profanity." Inside they are full of pride, malice, Shame/Shaming, and Black Magic, seeking to pervert and corrupt the innocence of the unwary and sincere, for their own nefarious purposes.
I warn all who seek to enter the absolute path, the true path, to spirituality, seek elsewhere, and beware those who are associated with, formerly or currently with this system, as it is only a simple facade to steal peoples money, divert their spiritual efforts, and waste as much of their precious time as they humanly possibly can.
I also am writing this publicly, to assert that I at this time Am Still All There, I am still my true self, and that I have zero further intentions of pursuing this line of study. I advise the same for anyone else, and to pray for those who do as well.
Thank you for reading this. Namaste.
What do you admins and mods think of this? I am writing to confer with the spiritual authorities here. I have a decent familiarity with gnosis, occultism, esoteric religion, as well as cultism found rampant online in fbk groups and other disreputable avenues of what amounts to black tantra. I condemn these practices in my personal views on spiritual practices and do not harbor the sympathy for those who admire them. I have been through a lot of negativity, and just want to ask, what would be the condoned, acceptable method to approach this, personally, to make progress internally. I have had damage to my mental body due to PTSD from damily abuse and I take medications for mental health. If this relates to the bamboo reed, in a very ancient traditional sense, could someone please look into my situation for assistance so I know esoterically the path to take for dealing with this in my private life, or if I should just take it as a personal lesson. I had been attacked by other parties interfering in my life with black magic as well, creating health problems and blockages to my inner master. In the bamboo reed chapter this is mentioned as I think a doorstop in the legacy of the doctrine layed out by VM Samael Aun Weor, and so I need a healthy helping of life advice, spiritual or secular. I do not have support from local churches, but I think I can gain some in due time. How do you think I should proceed, to minimize the collateral damage, and also, any personal experience you provide will be remembered. I will respond (with godspeed) in a timely manner, and use discretion, thanks in advance.
As I am stating here, I attended a karate school here in Lexington, KY, for the past ten years off and on. I got my brown sash/black belt about 4 years ago, and was really satisfied with my efforts. When I first began attendance, I was 20 years old, and it was really my intentions to study tai chi, and see if, with time, I could study under one of the teachers there. I didnt have enough money at the time for tuition, I didnt have income and was still living with my mom at the time. After about a year, I got my first belt/sash, and was a yellow sash. At this time there were around 20+ people attending the internal system classes they offered. Tuition was about 150 dollars a month and I really had to cut corners every month to make the payments on my low fixed income. I began having some really serious remarks from the long term "senior students", long term students and disciples of the Headmaster, Grandmaster Sin Thé. They made several remarks that I wasnt ready for the kind of commitment they said that I needed to make it, and began making statements to each other in front of me, and in private it is suggested, about me not being right in my head mentally to make progress, and that it just wasnt going to be enough for their personal expectations, in a very shallow insinuating way. In the class, from there to my green sash and current brown sash (which I recently ditched in an alleyway discreetly), I was hazed, over and over again, with refusal to teach me and present/open avoidance, on days that I was really heavily occupied, in discipline/prepared mentally and physically, at least several dozen classes over a 3-4 year period, from 2017-2021. I also during this time, had personal statements made against me by 2 or 3 other students, who left the classes after this of their own decision. About this time, Covid 19 began to hit and I only came back to visit, to see what the status of this was taking, preselectively and periodically. By then, and at the time of the first period of training, appx 2014-2016, many of their members became very distant (even more so) and left the company of their "private members only- club", attendance sharply falling to a severely minimal membership, and about this time, severe circumstances began to crop up. Dale Leonard, wife of the owner and head master, was killed in a devastating car wreck. There were also serious health complications/serious fatal illness with the head of the organization, Master Sin Thé. It also caused severe complications for their internal ranking/internal system of accountability, and much of their personal faith in their system was shaken eternally. Due to my financial situation and some personal conflicts I had with family stress, mental health concerns (I needed to take time to recover myself) and personal judgement I felt within my own immediate family, I had very much decided to take this as even-more-slowly-than--possible-as-possible. I had already received attacks of a psychic nature, in my sleep, spiritual attacks, against my own health, relationships (fights and conflict, family and social), as well as on my life in spiritual scenarios where I faced uncalled for rejection and backlash unrelated and unprovoked from other spiritual avenues/spiritual authorities, I had been seeking as a backup plan/alternatives that I went to, thinking I could seek them as a resource for help. Less than a year ago, the head of the school died of an aneurysm, and I went to the funeral. I shaved my head, and went in uniform, respectfully. Several of the members who were not long term personally students/disciples of the teachers there, also became very, in my eyes I say this, hostile, when I saw them there and I felt a deeper sense of dishonor there, residually from the earlier years. After Covid, and during when I attended small periods, inconsistently, due to the inner resentment, I actually myself received numerous personal comments of a threatening nature from students who felt, I would imagine, resentment from me not offering them personal respect they felt they deserved/were owed. I either walked out wordlessly, or just gave them a personal statement of personal affirmation to suit their own ego's. After a 6 month time period after the funeral, they changed the opening hours of the school from 4 pm to 5:30 pm, as an effort to curb interference of efforts to undermine their iron grip on membership and participation.
As of 1 week ago, I went to the class and was stopped at the door, at about 5 pm, by a senior member. He said, I was told, you were not to be allowed to go in there, under any circumstances. I said "why??!" And he said "I dont know. I was just Told, nothing else." And I said very worried, "WHY? I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG?" He said "I dont know, thats just what I was told." And I asked why and he said "we talked it over and there was mentioned something about some threats?" And I replied "that was over 5 years ago (a statement I made at the time, a warning and observation to the student who was forcing/pushing me, both in class and privately), and THEY WERE NOT THREATS!" He did not reply. I asked again, "What did Grandmaster Sin say about it?" He could not tell me a word because he did not know anything about it.
I resolved this later (they unplugged the phone so I could not call back), the next day, very open non-vindicating statements, and they did not provide any personal information, over Facebook, or details, and did not offer, in fact actually withheld, what this situation was specifically being caused by. No information provided. Just said to leave, and that they "looked forward to seeing me make progress."
I went back to talk to my tai chi teacher, (who I believe has done this to vindicate himself from the vast downfall that this behavior caused for their entire system/school, due to me making a private statement via email to another school, over the hazing which was prolonged, subtle, unrequited, and completely personally an attack on my mind, human potential, free will and my spirituality), today, privately and waited for 10 mins out by the back entrance to ask him -personally- what details were being instituted to know what officially needed to be done to clear myself of their charges, or what needed to be done on my part. HE WOULDNT EVEN GIVE ME A BASIC 5 MINUTE CONVERSATION TO LET ME KNOW, AFTER ALMOST 11 YEARS OF STUDY.
I am writing this to let anyone who reads this, know that this was perpetuated on me out of personal greed, pride, and shame, if not more personal spiritual problems, by a number of people involved with the Shaolin-Do karate "school system," under the Authority of 10th Deg. GRANDMASTER SIN KWANG THÉ. This was done in secrecy and doubledealing and deception, under unspoken lineage dissemination via the Shaolin lineage inherited by Said, Sin Kwang Thé.
I have no dishonor, negative emotions, disrespect, ill will, or, unintended Or intentional, resentment or neglect or etc etc Shameful Behavior in any way shape or form toward Gm. Sin Thé, this Highly Accomplished Master of Shaolin Martial Arts (and Meditation.)
I am writing this to act as a spiritual message toward the uninformed, that in the famous maxim of (esoteric) spirituality, both of these statements:
"Crime hides in the incense of prayer," and the proverbial gnostic maxim together with the former, "Many spiritual schools are full of profanity." Inside they are full of pride, malice, Shame/Shaming, and Black Magic, seeking to pervert and corrupt the innocence of the unwary and sincere, for their own nefarious purposes.
I warn all who seek to enter the absolute path, the true path, to spirituality, seek elsewhere, and beware those who are associated with, formerly or currently with this system, as it is only a simple facade to steal peoples money, divert their spiritual efforts, and waste as much of their precious time as they humanly possibly can.
I also am writing this publicly, to assert that I at this time Am Still All There, I am still my true self, and that I have zero further intentions of pursuing this line of study. I advise the same for anyone else, and to pray for those who do as well.
Thank you for reading this. Namaste.
What do you admins and mods think of this? I am writing to confer with the spiritual authorities here. I have a decent familiarity with gnosis, occultism, esoteric religion, as well as cultism found rampant online in fbk groups and other disreputable avenues of what amounts to black tantra. I condemn these practices in my personal views on spiritual practices and do not harbor the sympathy for those who admire them. I have been through a lot of negativity, and just want to ask, what would be the condoned, acceptable method to approach this, personally, to make progress internally. I have had damage to my mental body due to PTSD from damily abuse and I take medications for mental health. If this relates to the bamboo reed, in a very ancient traditional sense, could someone please look into my situation for assistance so I know esoterically the path to take for dealing with this in my private life, or if I should just take it as a personal lesson. I had been attacked by other parties interfering in my life with black magic as well, creating health problems and blockages to my inner master. In the bamboo reed chapter this is mentioned as I think a doorstop in the legacy of the doctrine layed out by VM Samael Aun Weor, and so I need a healthy helping of life advice, spiritual or secular. I do not have support from local churches, but I think I can gain some in due time. How do you think I should proceed, to minimize the collateral damage, and also, any personal experience you provide will be remembered. I will respond (with godspeed) in a timely manner, and use discretion, thanks in advance.
Hello Alex; quiet a long piece.
You have summarized by your own personal experiences in the Karate school how to avoid this and other schools of this nature. In quoting Master Samael Aun Weor you wrote the following:
The path of Light, of Truth and the realization of the self is the path that teaches and emphasizes annihilation of our defects and the awakening of the consciousness.
Karate and indeed most forms of yoga school in most cases exist to deify the self. At best these practices may help in the discipline of the mind and in some cases gain understanding of energy and energy flow and energy centers. They don't know neither do they teach you to annihilate the ego or the how of it. Finally, the are not aware of or do they deliberately work with the consciousness. Like most humanoid, they are asleep and need to awaken consciousness .
On the other hand:
The question really that you should answer is , of what use is it then for any serious gnostic student commit to attending this school or any such school seeing all the attacks( mentally, emotionally and spiritually) you have had to be subjected to. Is it just for the bragging right of being a black belt holder?
They are bad company that you should by all means avoid.
Seriously Study this: https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/types-of-spiritual-schools?; and this:
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/practical-spirituality/the-obstacles-to-yoga-and-their-antidotes.
You have summarized by your own personal experiences in the Karate school how to avoid this and other schools of this nature. In quoting Master Samael Aun Weor you wrote the following:
"Crime hides in the incense of prayer," and.......Many spiritual schools are full of profanity." .
The path of Light, of Truth and the realization of the self is the path that teaches and emphasizes annihilation of our defects and the awakening of the consciousness.
Karate and indeed most forms of yoga school in most cases exist to deify the self. At best these practices may help in the discipline of the mind and in some cases gain understanding of energy and energy flow and energy centers. They don't know neither do they teach you to annihilate the ego or the how of it. Finally, the are not aware of or do they deliberately work with the consciousness. Like most humanoid, they are asleep and need to awaken consciousness .
On the other hand:
The Gnostic Movement is a school of regeneration that practices the three basic principles of the revolution of the consciousness
Every authentic school of regeneration teaches the three basic factors for the revolution of the consciousness. These three factors are: to die; to be born; to sacrifice ourselves for humanity. The pluralized "I" has to die in order to create the soul.
The question really that you should answer is , of what use is it then for any serious gnostic student commit to attending this school or any such school seeing all the attacks( mentally, emotionally and spiritually) you have had to be subjected to. Is it just for the bragging right of being a black belt holder?
They are bad company that you should by all means avoid.
Seriously Study this: https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/types-of-spiritual-schools?; and this:
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/practical-spirituality/the-obstacles-to-yoga-and-their-antidotes.
Those who have traveled through India, Tibet, China, Japan, the Great Tartar, etc., know very well that the most serious form of yoga is found in tantra. In reality, without tantra (Sexual Magic) it is absolutely impossible to reach Initiation.
In the western world, yoga has not been comprehended correctly, and naturally many infrasexuals have appeared, who hate sex..
Really, yoga without sex, without the Maithuna, is like a garden without water. Yoga without sex is a type of kindergarten, not a school of regeneration. Yoga without the Maithuna cannot Self-realize anyone.
The sense of freedom can only be fully understood when we have annihilated the shackles of our very own psychological incarceration." - Samael Aun Weor, The Great Rebellion
Sorry I had to make a change in post format to get it to post kept being detected as spam srry.
Thank you so much for the quotes and links. Thank you so so much. It has given me, what I feel to be deep PERSONAL INSIGHT, GNOSIS, unto myself of course. It makes the basis of study HERE, in the path of light, make so much more sense to me, and helps me differentiate/think via discernment. I really cant thank you enough, because, I have had great great trouble for someone my age and single, that became very smoothly linear (as of late). It manifested greatly in personal karma by those around me, immediately trying to get through the same situation though we have our own lives. Your advice may have helped me protect my family or even the lives of others in the future and now too. I believe I was personally deceiving myself until recently about my own all important views and this was a great source of information for me to reflect on in this state.
As for a response I have an additional minor question. I have done occultism. I have studied the path of the esoteric "Israel", or "israelite" in the Bible.
I have a deep knowledge based/oriented question for the depth of this discussion/post.
I have had some confusion before myself, about gnosis and I believe something over the years became misconstrued.
In the path of the resurrection of the astral Christ, it requires kundalini tantra, and more conclusively, specifies an advanced form of astral kundalini, accessed by the power of the masters of Tiphereth at Yetzirah/Netzach, where the astral body is Christified via being Crucified by the Initiate.
This refers to the bamboo reed in The Mystery of the Golden Flower, being something related to mastery of the 5th degree, of Buddhahood.
If this is so my most specific question is this?: How does this apply to the life of the actual karma of the path towards being an Israelite, the degrees of mastery of torah, of the degrees of Abraham, attaining the intimate spirit represented by Abraham, in the Jewish religion? I ask because, one must also dedicate oneself in occult circles, in the practice of the sulphur, mercury, and salt, the bread, the wine, the honey, of alchemy, as a master of the Initiation of the Christ, you have to have had the Venusian/Luciferian Initiation, in some form be it a real ceremony, or work done personally. Thats why the initiations exist on multidimensional levels in the internal worlds, as said by the words of Samael Aun Weor numerous, numerous And I Mean Many... Many Many Many times in his most important works of writing for those who are serious, for their sakes, in the way that will help them on the path. His crown work was rife with memories of this and his own lifes greatest works/achievements.
How does the work in the level of attaining the higher works/initiations, towards the Astral Christ, "measure up" I mean, towards the meaning found scripturally?
What is the method for attaining astral work as an initiate attempting to reach the Astral Crucification?
Where would be a place to look, a good indicator etc To find a reference to this, in scriptures in general I mean? In my experience, seeking others advice here is not relevant and praying about it is a totally different matter.
And my last question pertaining to all this, kinda a part of the previous one.
In the Bible and the Gospel, referring to Christ and the Holy Spirit, of the days of Pentecost,
It makes several (strange in this context imho) doctrine reference type statements by the authors of the New Testament, quoting the apostles and Paul, I think in James it specifically mentions this, but I doubt it has confirmation for this question. It says talking about Abrahamic Hebrew doctrine of the spirit being resistant to the works of Satan and demons,
See James 2:4-26
-James 2:4-26 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.-
I have seen in my own life, in meditation, that these pertain to my own state of being, on the path. It says we are to seek the fruits of the Holy Spirit through the Body of Christ. This pertains to the true discipleship of Yeshua Chrestos, the Living Son of God, and a deep study, of those things pertaining to him. I have had a lot of experience in my whole life, most of my life, seeing the aftermath of Christianity, on my own gnostic beliefs being challenged by spiritual ignorance and a host of other problems of a spiritual nature. I also struggled with invocations for many of my early years, as an aside. I learned protection magic and angel magic studying the Bible and never was given the urge to dabble with it. I actually am happy to announce, I have received the fruits I have sown and the fruits of my labors above and beyond what I would have thought was capable of my own works, through Faithfulness.
I also feel more and more redirected towards participation in local ministry towards my own pursuits, as of my needs socio-spiritually/socially.
I believe this, among, what I consider other signs, is a sign of the awakening of my generation in the coming future. Because I see my pain reflected perfectly in so many others, distorted by time wandering off their spiritual path into the wilderness of, as Generation X would call it, "losing touch," with "our religion" of life.
So its very hard I have seen, to live life succesfully and prosperously as so many claim God has intended, evangelically, and its very in-secure towards the wellbeing of the development of the future wellbeing.
I am experiencing a rarity of God blessing my life by restoring what the locust has eaten in my life. It will take the same for many others to also share this experience. Finding a path in the world is very limited and ruins the unprepared soul like a proverbial scarecrow. I have long needed the former rain, which I am now receiving as the latter rain.
Are there specifics in religion, about this aspect/this part of the path? As for my martial arts acquaintances... you were 100% right and cutting them off expediates my own recovery internally. 100% MUCH NEEDED Judgement call, everything is taken care of with that once and for all.
Very much like the Great Rebellion Quote. It is of the nature that you expressed and the Yoga Antidotes like gave me much understanding further about how to personally approach this myself.
Thank you so much for the quotes and links. Thank you so so much. It has given me, what I feel to be deep PERSONAL INSIGHT, GNOSIS, unto myself of course. It makes the basis of study HERE, in the path of light, make so much more sense to me, and helps me differentiate/think via discernment. I really cant thank you enough, because, I have had great great trouble for someone my age and single, that became very smoothly linear (as of late). It manifested greatly in personal karma by those around me, immediately trying to get through the same situation though we have our own lives. Your advice may have helped me protect my family or even the lives of others in the future and now too. I believe I was personally deceiving myself until recently about my own all important views and this was a great source of information for me to reflect on in this state.
As for a response I have an additional minor question. I have done occultism. I have studied the path of the esoteric "Israel", or "israelite" in the Bible.
I have a deep knowledge based/oriented question for the depth of this discussion/post.
I have had some confusion before myself, about gnosis and I believe something over the years became misconstrued.
In the path of the resurrection of the astral Christ, it requires kundalini tantra, and more conclusively, specifies an advanced form of astral kundalini, accessed by the power of the masters of Tiphereth at Yetzirah/Netzach, where the astral body is Christified via being Crucified by the Initiate.
This refers to the bamboo reed in The Mystery of the Golden Flower, being something related to mastery of the 5th degree, of Buddhahood.
If this is so my most specific question is this?: How does this apply to the life of the actual karma of the path towards being an Israelite, the degrees of mastery of torah, of the degrees of Abraham, attaining the intimate spirit represented by Abraham, in the Jewish religion? I ask because, one must also dedicate oneself in occult circles, in the practice of the sulphur, mercury, and salt, the bread, the wine, the honey, of alchemy, as a master of the Initiation of the Christ, you have to have had the Venusian/Luciferian Initiation, in some form be it a real ceremony, or work done personally. Thats why the initiations exist on multidimensional levels in the internal worlds, as said by the words of Samael Aun Weor numerous, numerous And I Mean Many... Many Many Many times in his most important works of writing for those who are serious, for their sakes, in the way that will help them on the path. His crown work was rife with memories of this and his own lifes greatest works/achievements.
How does the work in the level of attaining the higher works/initiations, towards the Astral Christ, "measure up" I mean, towards the meaning found scripturally?
What is the method for attaining astral work as an initiate attempting to reach the Astral Crucification?
Where would be a place to look, a good indicator etc To find a reference to this, in scriptures in general I mean? In my experience, seeking others advice here is not relevant and praying about it is a totally different matter.
And my last question pertaining to all this, kinda a part of the previous one.
In the Bible and the Gospel, referring to Christ and the Holy Spirit, of the days of Pentecost,
It makes several (strange in this context imho) doctrine reference type statements by the authors of the New Testament, quoting the apostles and Paul, I think in James it specifically mentions this, but I doubt it has confirmation for this question. It says talking about Abrahamic Hebrew doctrine of the spirit being resistant to the works of Satan and demons,
See James 2:4-26
-James 2:4-26 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.-
I have seen in my own life, in meditation, that these pertain to my own state of being, on the path. It says we are to seek the fruits of the Holy Spirit through the Body of Christ. This pertains to the true discipleship of Yeshua Chrestos, the Living Son of God, and a deep study, of those things pertaining to him. I have had a lot of experience in my whole life, most of my life, seeing the aftermath of Christianity, on my own gnostic beliefs being challenged by spiritual ignorance and a host of other problems of a spiritual nature. I also struggled with invocations for many of my early years, as an aside. I learned protection magic and angel magic studying the Bible and never was given the urge to dabble with it. I actually am happy to announce, I have received the fruits I have sown and the fruits of my labors above and beyond what I would have thought was capable of my own works, through Faithfulness.
I also feel more and more redirected towards participation in local ministry towards my own pursuits, as of my needs socio-spiritually/socially.
I believe this, among, what I consider other signs, is a sign of the awakening of my generation in the coming future. Because I see my pain reflected perfectly in so many others, distorted by time wandering off their spiritual path into the wilderness of, as Generation X would call it, "losing touch," with "our religion" of life.
So its very hard I have seen, to live life succesfully and prosperously as so many claim God has intended, evangelically, and its very in-secure towards the wellbeing of the development of the future wellbeing.
I am experiencing a rarity of God blessing my life by restoring what the locust has eaten in my life. It will take the same for many others to also share this experience. Finding a path in the world is very limited and ruins the unprepared soul like a proverbial scarecrow. I have long needed the former rain, which I am now receiving as the latter rain.
Are there specifics in religion, about this aspect/this part of the path? As for my martial arts acquaintances... you were 100% right and cutting them off expediates my own recovery internally. 100% MUCH NEEDED Judgement call, everything is taken care of with that once and for all.
Very much like the Great Rebellion Quote. It is of the nature that you expressed and the Yoga Antidotes like gave me much understanding further about how to personally approach this myself.
Hello Alex, Glorian organization does not get involved or concerned itself with the practices and teachings of other occultic group that is at variance with the truth of the goal of self realization of the being.
For the avoidance of doubt, our teachings focus and emphasize the following aspects: of death, birth and sacrifice for humanity if we are to enter the path of initiation, the path of the realization of the self.
Anything outside of these is sophistry and complications that will definitely hinder our quest and journey to re unite with divinity.
We must give ourselves to the dissolution of the egos; and subsequently be born again. Finally we must be prepared to give ourselves in sacrifice for humanity. In these three are contained all the scriptures to be in perfect union with God. Work on these and pray to the divine Mother, then you will be blessed with the right and rites of initiation.
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/machinery-of-the-soul/sacrifice-and-transformation;
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/bhavachakra-the-wheel-of-becoming/spiritual-birth.
For the avoidance of doubt, our teachings focus and emphasize the following aspects: of death, birth and sacrifice for humanity if we are to enter the path of initiation, the path of the realization of the self.
Anything outside of these is sophistry and complications that will definitely hinder our quest and journey to re unite with divinity.
We must give ourselves to the dissolution of the egos; and subsequently be born again. Finally we must be prepared to give ourselves in sacrifice for humanity. In these three are contained all the scriptures to be in perfect union with God. Work on these and pray to the divine Mother, then you will be blessed with the right and rites of initiation.
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/machinery-of-the-soul/sacrifice-and-transformation;
https://glorian.org/learn/courses-and-lectures/bhavachakra-the-wheel-of-becoming/spiritual-birth.
Alex
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